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As I mentioned in my last post I joined several more scammer pages on facebook. This person contacted me about sharing my blog on his page. And in return I will share his facebook page here. So I asked him a few questions and he gratuitously answered them. He has been a great resource too. So here we go. Were you in the military? If so what branch and years were you in? Are you married, do you have kids? Well, about myself. I'm a 50 something Male, married with two adult children. I am retired Military, (US Marine Corps 1980-2000) originally from the south but now live on the West Coast. I unfortunately am also disabled which means I have a lot of free time on my hands. How did you get involved starting your facebook about the military scammers? I got into helping identify Military Romance Scammers as a sideline from also being interested in combating "Stolen Valor" where people claim to have been awarded rank and medals from the military in order to obtain benefits, take from charities or just get their names in the media. We had one lady who was part of our group almost get scammed into sending Walmart Gift cards to a scammer posing as a US Army Sergeant Major. The more I looked into it the more I found out just how bad the problem is. I started a face book page called Stop Fake Military Romance Scammers in 2014. Since then I have answered hundreds of questions from people about profiles on dating sites and on Face Book. As far as why I consider myself qualified to ID these scammers there are two main reasons. First and foremost I am a retired senior non-commissioned officer who served 20 years. Although there may have been slight changes since I left the service I am familiar in the way that military pay, leave, travel, medical and deployments work as well as most administrative matters Second I have become well versed in the methods that scammers use. They often have practically the same script they use over and over. I always talk with people who contact me and go through what the scammer has sent them. Once in a while I get a new twist that scammers throw in. I try to keep a handy "reference guide" posted on my page and I update it often. What advice can you women on these scammers? That's a very complex question. I could probably do a long seminar on the subject matter In order to answer this I would like to break this question down into several sub topics as follows: 1. Who Scammers Target. 2 Who the Scammers are. 3 What type of environment ( country) allows scammers to thrive, 4 Who are the actual Victims of military romance scams. 5. What is a quick way to detect scammer profiles. 6 How the scam plays out. 7 What is a sure way to find out if someone is a Scammer. 8 The delicate issue of nude photos 9 After the scam ends Who Scammers Target. As far as a "target group" for these scammers. Military Romance Scams are a subset of the type of scams that are run via the Internet. Although I have had a few cases of men who contact the page ( both straight and gay) the overwhelming number of people who are targeted are women over the age of 40 who are single, divorced or widowed. Although scammers certainly use dating sites they often send Friend request to women on face book with the hopes of getting a response. It's a " scattergun" tactic often used in sales. It may take a hundred friend requests on social media to get a response. Out of those hundred responses maybe 1 may fall into the trap they set. So scammers know they have to "bait" about 1,000 people to get one to send anything. I personally only use face book but I get at least one or two Friend Requests from obvious scammers a week. I'm sure the average person gets the same. I also would like to add that scamming is an international problem. Close to half the people who contact my page are from nations other than the United States. Who the Scammers are As far as who the scammers are it varies little. There are some who actually live in developed countries. Some are just native criminals who see how the scam works and decide to run with it . There are some people in the US that are scammers or accomplices. I've been contacted by victims who have wired or sent money to names and addresses within the US that the scammer says are a relative or agent for them. This does happen but its very risky because if reported and followed up in can result in the person who gets sent the money being charged. The vast majority of scammers are from West Africa ( Nigeria and Ghana) I came to that conclusion because other than having money wired to offshore accounts practically every address used as a "middleman" for funds supposedly going to a "service member" is a African name and an address in a city in Ghana or Nigeria ( The City of Lagos is a hotbed of scammers). Scammers are usually young men, but they can vary in age. They are very intelligent and many are university students or well educated. What type of environment ( country) allows scammers to thrive Scamming is considered a legitimate profession and totally acceptable in West Africa. These countries are very poor and the attitude is generally that western countries have been exploiting their people and resources for centuries. They see absolutely nothing wrong with theft by deception to get payback. Its part of their culture. It even has religious undertones. "Sakawa" combines the use of primitive type rites and ceremonies and Internet scamming. In Ghana successful "Sakawa Boys" are looked up to the same way that "Gangsta Rappers" were idolized in the US. There are several songs that have been written about them and a series of locally produced movies. There is no moral compass in these movies. The scammers flaunt the lifestyle they obtained through theft and the victims aren't even portrayed. When bad fortune befalls the scammer its not because they are facing legal justice or answering for immoral acts, its because they failed to uphold their part of the "Sakawa" ritual. The Countries of Nigeria and Ghana pay lip service at most to the problem of scammers. Scammers bring in an untold amount of funds into the country. I would estimate its BILLIONS of dollars per year. Politicians and Law enforcement there get their share of this money, either directly or indirectly. Its not in their interest to shut it down. A middle Class Nigerian worker makes about 500 dollars a month while Ghana is 35 dollars a month. A successful scam even if it only gets 100 dollars is a huge amount of money in those countries. A scammer who is able to do that once a week can make more money in a year than a week than most legitimate workers do in a year. Its not an exaggeration to say that a single high value scam can set up a scammer for years. Who are the actual Victims of military romance scams The average victim of a scammer falls into the target group I described above. Females 40-60 who are single, divorced or widowed. In addition there are several traits victims share, and I will try to not sound condescending as I list them. Please note that I'm not saying any of this as an insult. The victims are very emotionally vulnerable and like being courted and talked to by someone who shows ( or pretends to show) interest in them. They tend to feel isolated and are reaching out for company. They long to find someone who will accept them for who they are as far as age, looks and body type. They tend to be above average in intelligence, however if they become emotionally involved with a scammer they will start thinking emotionally. They tend to use the internet a lot for social interaction rather than putting themselves on the dating scene in public. They feel it is more efficient to narrow down the search for that special someone before meeting them in person. They are open to long distance relationships with the hope that it will end with them being together with that "special someone". They are not looking for any type of casual hookups or one night stands. They are in it for the long haul, and are willing to sacrifice a lot to get to meet "that special guy". This is something that is tailor made for a scammer to exploit. What is a quick way to detect scammer profiles Identifying what a typical military scammer profile looks like is a key to stopping it before it starts. First and foremost Scammers use pictures stolen from photogenic service members. One thing that stands out is scammer profiles tend to be very basic and have only a few photos and entries on the time line and very few friends if any. The biggest thing is they will usually claim to be overseas in Syria, Iraq, Afghanistan or Africa. HINT: US service members never claim to be stationed in those places that is where they may DEPLOY to. Service Members are STATIONED in a Fort (Army) Camp (Marines) Air Base(Air Force) or Naval Station( Navy in the continental United States or in places such as Germany or Korea If they have any hometown it will usually be in a popular state, such as New York, California, Texas, Etc, They will claim to be a Sergeant or an Officer and will say they attended a popular University or a service academy such as West Point or the US Army War College. HINT: Only officers attend West Point and only Senior Officers go to the US Army War College One thing that I often find is because ethnic African names don't follow the same patterns as Western ones they will often combine and go by two surnames, such as Anderson Johnson, Williams Roberts, Smith Jones, etc. How the scam plays out The scam usually plays out in the following manner, I will go over this and also tell you why the story is total horse pucky. After the initial contact the scammer will quickly open up and tell you a great bit of personal information about himself, all scripted of course. He will give you a hard luck story about how he lost his parents, and if married his wife died of cancer or in an accident or divorced him after cheating on him. He may say he is a single parent with a special needs child being looked after at a boarding school or a nanny. He may claim to be foreign born to explain his poor grammar. HINT: by doing this he can explain why he has no relatives or friends actually living in the US something that is totally opposite of the truth of US service members. Once he has gotten the attention ( and sympathy) of the victim the scammer will start in with the romance games. The scammer will say he wants to meet that "someone special" and settle down. They will play to the Victims emotions and start telling them how nice and sweet they are and start sending them romantic poems and song lyrics and lay it on thick, He likes long walks holding hands, candlelight dinners where he cooks for them. The man is just too good to be true. Once he gets the victim to fall for the spiel he starts setting the hook. He insists that as soon as he can he is coming "home" to see his "true love". Once the victim is happily waiting for "her dream man" to " come home" the scammer will start having money issues or need things such as a phone card or even a phone to call on. Also he may ask for money for food or medical needs or clothing or to take care of bills he has because he has no access to his pay. Hint: Service members that are deployed are fed clothed and all medical care is provided by the military. They also have full access to their pay and can meet any financial obligations they have. Once the scammer starts getting the victim to send funds and knows he has them deeply involved he will start getting more creative. He will say that his "command" requires that he gets a clearance to put you on a "Fiance" list so you can continue communicating with him. He will also say that he will need you to fill out a "Leave Request Form" a "Travel and Baggage Claim form" and will also ask for you to pay for " Travel Arrangements". This is all so he can talk to and come home to his " True love". The scammer, or his "Commanding Officer" will send Emails with official looking forms attached for you to fill out and send back. There is often a "fee" that has to be paid in conjunction with it. HINT: There is absolutely no such thing as "Fiance Benefits" or "Approved Contact Lists" Also any type of leave or travel or transportation needs absolutely no requests or approval from anyone besides the Service Member and his immediate Command. Any type of paperwork for leave or travel is internal and a service members travel and luggage arrangements are arranged and funded by the military, using military or chartered airlines. The "Official Forms" are complete fabrication using copied letterheads and military like jargon to appear real The scammer may also use tried and true methods to con the victim out of more funds. They may say they are sending a package with valuable items ( jewelry, money or gold) their unit found while "raiding an ISIS headquarters and decided to keep. They will say its worth a huge amount of money and they need you to pay a " fee" to get it through customs, of course the customs "agent" is either an offshore bank or an address in Nigeria or Ghana. They will even send photos of "the package" and "Customs tag" with your name and address on it. If you do send money to get the " package" the scammer will keep contacting you, sometimes posing as a " customs agent" or Interpol saying there is a problem with the tag and requesting even more money. If you don't send it they may say that you can be charged as an accomplice and arrested, all in hopes of getting more money from you. HINT: As you might guess by now, there never is a package and the picture is a generic photo copied with your info pasted on to it. It never exited. There is no customs or police investigation, just a scammer trying to milk you dry. The Scam plays out when the victim finally realizes the "Soldier" she fell for is never coming, and has bilked her out of everything she can send. Once the victim firmly states she has nothing else the scammer will become either " upset" because she doesn't love him and try to convince her to beg, steal or borrow to get even more money. The Scammer will continue this cycle over and over. Conclusion: What I laid out is the absolute worse scenario. Often the victim will realize after they have sent money that they are dealing with a scammer and things will end. Victims I have spoken to have lost anywhere from 150 to 100,000 dollars. Even with the low dollar amounts the victims have suffered through a lot of emotional trauma. More than once I have to talk them out of harming themselves or taking other drastic action. What is a sure way to find out if someone is a Scammer As for methods to immediately know if someone is a scammer there are several ways that I as a retired military member can see through their fake stories. I can't really pass 20 years experience to someone in a paragraph or two, and scammers certainly have the ability to google enough information to sound legitimate to someone who has never served. They often have a spiel about what their rank, job title and duties are, all copied from easily accessible internet sources. First a scammer will not agree to call or skype with you. They will give the excuse that its not allowed for security reasons. Using logic, if they were involved in some high security type of deployment they wouldn't be allowed to use the internet or phone to talk to a complete stranger either. Deployed service members don't spend their entire deployment locked in mortal combat with ISIS. They have "down time" in which they are able to go to a secure base, clean up equipment, take showers, do laundry and relax. There are small post exchanges there where they can purchase health items, plus small electronics and there are places to get burgers, fries, etc. They also have internet access and buildings with a large amount of phones in it. They can purchase or use phone cards and often can call for no charge at all. I will add that there are ATM machines and check cashing places in these rear areas. In short if you are contacted by a real service member via internet they should be able to at a minimum call you. If they are messaging they can simply walk to the next building and call. In line with that a scammer will not be able to provide you with a photograph that you have him strike a certain pose in or holding up a hand written note. They have are only able to copy a few photos of a service member off the internet and chances are none of them are the pose you pic. Be aware that in some cases a scammer will find a photo of a service member holding up an object and photo shop letters and dates in it. Usually this is easily detected if you enlarge the photo. One last easy tip is that a scammer will not be able to provide you with a military address to send him anything. The scammer will insist than other than transferring funds overseas to an anonymous account, the only other way to get him items is through am "agent" in you guessed it,, Nigeria or Ghana. I would like to add that sometimes the scammer may be in the US or use an accomplice here, and they will say that person is a relative. US service members deployed overseas use the military mail system. Every piece of mail or package goes through an APO (Army Post Office) if they are Army or Air Force or an FPO (Fleet Post Office) if they are Navy or Marine Corps. There is NO exception to this rule. They will never be a foreign address or country indicated. Here are a few examples of deployed Military addresses. Capt John Doe unit 45013 Box 2666 USAJ APO AP 96338 Sgt James Smith 2 Cav Div A Co 1st Plt Camp Victory APO AE 09388 CPO Jay Ball USS Dakota A-3 Division FPO AE 09565. If you noticed the zip codes in those addresses are close to zip codes in San Francisco and New York, which are locations where Military Post Offices are that process mail overseas. A scammer will not use these addresses if he wants to receive anything from you. One last tip is to do a Google Image search on the photos the scammer is using. In many cases scam alert sites may have these images as being used by several different scammer profiles. The delicate issue of nude photos As far as nude photos often scammers will convince their victim to send explicit photos of themselves. This can be embarrassing but victims need to realize its water under the bridge. The worst thing about it is that scammers will threaten to "publish" them and try to blackmail the victim. This is always a bluff and just an attempt to squeeze out more money from the Victim. After the scam ends After someone realizes they have been scammed or are simply being targeted there are several steps to take. The first is come to grips with the fact that you will NOT get your money back. Its the same as if you dropped cash in a street of a crowded city and didn't realize it until the next day. If you feel your bank account or credit card info may have been comprised alert the companies and get new cards and account numbers. ( I've not heard of this happening in MRS's but it is a possibility. The second is to report the scammer profile to the site you met them on and block all contact. You may want to consider creating a new profile or email account and deleting the old ones. The same with your phone. Changing all of these may seem extreme but the thing to realize is that the scammer who you were dealing with knows them. While you are onto his one fake profile he may have several others he will contact you on. Perhaps with a totally different type of scam. One thing I have noted is that victims are sometimes contacted by someone claiming to be a "Scam Recovery Agent" who will say they can get all your money back. They will ask for details and say they are on to who scammed you and are ready to arrest them and recover what you lost. Of course there will be an "Official Report Form" to fill out... and a fee that must be sent to.. you guessed it Nigeria. Another thing to do is to report this to your local PD. Gather whatever receipts you have and make them take a report. While it may seem embarrassing its important that figures and statistics on these crimes be bought to law enforcement's attention at all levels. Get your story out, even if you remain anonymous. One last thing is to NOT become obsessed with the real service member in the stolen images. I have run into this in way to many cases. The victim of the scam says they want to find the "real" soldier and warn them. Reading between the lines I know the real reason is that they have fallen for the man in the picture and want to contact them in hopes of actually connecting. While scammers may use pictures of high ranking officers ( Generals) that are easily found on Wikipedia a large number of images are not traceable. I do not attempt to find them and neither should the victim for several reasons. First the service members privacy has already been violated and he may have already been contacted several times already. If he is in a relationship the last thing he needs is having to explain to his partner why he keeps getting contacted by women from dating sites. Delete the photos and move on. Who is the person on your military scammer facebook cover? I'm glad you asked that question. That person is one of the reasons I started the page. He is not a military romance scammer in the sense that he is not a Nigerian who scams victims into sending money overseas. His name is Dennis Howard Chevalier and he lives in the Dallas Fort Worth area. He was exposed by the Stolen Valor Community about 4 years ago for claiming to be a USAF Lt Col Pilot and Veteran of Desert Storm. While uncovering his lies about his service we uncovered that he had been married 6 times and uses dating sites and lies about his military service, being a Police Officer and a Doctor in Forensic Psychology to pick up women on the internet. His method is to quickly get who he is dating to marry him then take control of their assets and lives and use them while emotionally abusing them. He has been married and divorced twice more since he was first exposed for a total of 8 times. If I come across a case of stolen valor where a person acts like he does I will post their information on my page. Because of face book's rules I blacked out his face, but if you look back on my page I have him and three others that I profiled in case women in the US get contacted by them on a dating site. In his case, it actually worked, I had a woman contact me who had met him through a dating site and thought there was something off about him. I was able to tell her his story and she googled him and dodged the bullet Thank you very much for asking me about my page and what I do. Please contact the page at any time if you have any Questions https://www.facebook.com/Stop-Fake-Military-Romance-Scammers-272987476199270/

st Sunday I found a facebook page that is about military scammers. I joined the page and posted info on my blog. The owner of the page contacted me privately. He shared my info on his page to bring more traffic here. So now I want to share his facebook page here so you can go see his stuff. Military Romance Scammers I am going to get more info about his page and how he got involved in the fight of this. So stay tuned.

Hello Pasty How are you doing ? Thank you responding to my personal email,Sorry for the delay to my respond .My names are Syvester Muller, I 'm a widower as you see in my profile,I have one child her name is Kelly she is 16,I live in Virginia Beach alone with my daughter,My family lives in Miami,lost my dad few years ago. I'm general and optimistic person with a great sense of humor seeking someone to enthrone as my queen,I have been single for three years now, I was Married for 17 years it hurt so bad for you to lost someone you love,well life is such a gift, I'm Self-Employ I'm into oil/Gas distribution and also work contract work for various oil/gas company, I'm open for a long distance relationship i have been through it before with my late wife so i can do it more better. My late wife pass away by cancer it was very painful but such is life, My Birthday is April 19th 1962,I have an accent when I speak ( I was brought up by my father) My mother is Native America,why my father is from French. I'm a mix race as you see I'm such a curious, ambitious, honest, trustworthy, kind, shy, nice, full of humor, express feelings like to joke, like romancing, I have this unique personality about life and general relationships. Life as we know is too short not to be able to enjoy the ones around us. I can always turn a frown into a smile. I enjoy meeting new people. I am educated, intelligent, sincere, very polite, sports oriented, charming, honest and most of all, I have the personality that draws friends and even strangers closer to me. I enjoy being active in all types of indoor and outdoor sports. I especially like the beach, softball, motorcycle riding and fitness training...Anything else you want to know will fall as follow as we get to know one another,tell me about your self,I am going to place my profile page on hold,so that i can concentrate on getting to know you, I will send you some pictures and write more when I hear from you you seem like a real woman. Your New Friend Muller First thing that sets me off? Can you guess? Yes the spelling of my name. It's PATSY!!!!!!!!! Once I got past that the email is the same as the others. I don't know if they have a club where they all get together and create emails because they are all the same. But they really need to work on their English. Okay, here is email #2: Hello Pasty How are you doing? Thank you so much for your letter and for introducing your self in such manner, Don't allow distance to be any problem i have done it before when i meant my late wife she was in Akron Ohio and was in Miami with my mother we dated back and front for 4 months before we decided to settled down together and get married, This is all new to me but i believe one thing their is always a first time for everything. All i'm seeking from you is love friendship and honest for us to build our friendship strong and reliable because relationship is not all about sex,it about love,trust,commitment and happiness,Am very straight forward person,I don't like liars,thief's fighting and yelling ,my favorite color is red,I feel God have brought you and I together,I'm not wanting or looking for just any woman to have sex with don't get me wrong,I love sex i can make love all day when am in love with that person. I believe love making go smoothly when both partner share love between their heart. I need someone that GOD have made for me.I love swimming and shopping but have not done any of all that in a while because i hate doing it alone.I like cars,I have a red BMW Sport ,it a nice car Love it,I do go to church every Sunday I play guitar at my church also my daughter sing for the choir in her church,I like keeping my affair to my self,don't like sharing secret and personal affair between me and my woman outside to friends. My spirit tell me you are different, you are the kind of woman I have been praying to meet for all this years of been alone,I have not been a man enough to look for another love.since the passing of my wife, But now is the time to make my self happy and a woman like you happy.I have a lot which I will like you to know about me and for my family to embrace you as their own,because there is this spirit in me that tells me when a woman is fit for me. You may not understand what i mean, but with time i believe you will see it all. I am 100% sincere about getting to know you and giving your my concentration and attention,Because when i came across your profile it was simple for me to understand and you process the potentials i am seeking from a woman,the quality,body structure, so i believe you are my final stop no more searching from the website,Here is my cell phone is xxxxxxxxxxx you can call me anytime or send a text message anytime ,Also if you Skype that we be nice as well because it will enable us to see each other and get to know one another.don't forget to respond to this message. Take Care Muller Now after the first email I wrote back and corrected him on the spelling of my name. Obviously he didn't get it and still has my name misspelled. Oh well. So from my work phone I called his number and got an actual person's voice mail and it was some foreign guy. So I hung up. Now here is the fun part. My response back to him: Thanks for the picture. The guy in the picture is really good looking. Where did you steal it from? A website? I'm no longer interested. But thanks. I can tell from your emails that you're fake and not really that person in the photo. Good try though. Take a hike. Perhaps I am too blunt? Nah!!!!!!!!! And of course I have a picture and we all know here it will end up now. THE LIARS WALL OF DISDAIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I met Sally on the Next Door app for our neighborhood. She sent me a private message and we've chatted several times about the crazy people on dating site. Below is her success story that she shared with me. "I met Dave on POF or Plenty of Fish. We talked a few times and decided to meet for dinner. I had some medical issues that I told him about before meeting and seemed to accept them. He told me about his, but after talking to him, I forgot all about those. We met for dinner and instantly connected. We laughed and talked and decided to go for a drive to talk some more. That is when I finally realized he was missing a leg. Call me the unaware. We started dating and talking regularly, I was spending weekends with him and really getting to know each other. I guess you can say I was really falling for him, my feelings ran deep. When he told me he loved me, the dog and I were playing on the floor and it shocked me. I looked up and had tears in my eyes, it touched me that deeply. We loved cooking together, just snuggling together on the couch and we were starting to get me involved in some of his favorite hobbies. I will never forget the day he looked at me and said “I love you but I do NOT want to get married again.” I was fine with that. I understood the feelings. We were just getting geared up to be a “couple” and have him meet my family and vice versa when he suddenly passed away from a heart attack. His last words to me were “You make me feel like a King.” I guess I did something right, I made his last days happy. I know he made me happy the entire time we were together." Thank you Sally for sharing your beautiful story. I am sure Dave is looking down from heaven and smiling.

They say timing is everything. It was with Brian and Debby. I’ve known Brian since the 80s when we worked together. After his wife Sue passed away he took time to move on. When he was ready to date again he decided to join a dating site. He joined Match.com He had several dates but no sparks with any of them. One girl he went out with they met at a parking lot and he drove them to Sikeston to eat at Lammerts (Home of the Throwed Rolls). As soon as they came back to her car, she couldn’t get out of the car fastest and into her car. Brian had no idea what was going on. Like all us in the dating scene you think you’ll never meet anyone. Then came along Debby. She messaged him first on Match. She wasn’t in the age range he was looking for. She missed the cut off by one year. But she went ahead and messaged him. When Brian saw the message, he checked out her picture and profile and was definitely interested. He couldn’t wait to meet her. They went out and the sparks were there. They dated for a while. Debby her some personal stuff that she didn’t want to burden Brian with so she said they should go their separate ways. They were a part for a year. But Brian didn’t give up. He would send her cards and the occasional text. Then on New Year’s Day he sent her a text that said, “Wishing you a happy New Year with love and happiness.” They started texting after that and it brought them back together and they’ve been together ever since. During their separation Brian did date but they just weren’t Debby. He knew she was the one. When I posted that I was looking for success stories Brian was the first to reply. Thanks Brian and Debby for sharing your story with me. This is just the sweetest story and I couldn’t be happier for them.

Here is the conversation. And of course his picture will be added to the Liars Wall of Disdain.

As I mentioned in my video, my friend Darin from work is an Army Vet so when I have questions I ask him. Here is a good tip fro my friend Darin: "Ask him where he is deployed, specifically which FOB. FOB stands for Forward Operating Base so if he says he is at one of these he has no cell phone capabilities. If he doesn't even know what he means you got him there too!" Thank you Darin!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This is on my You Tube channel. For some reason uploading here won't work. Click on the link below to see my video I GOT A LIVE ONE!!!

For a third time. LOL!! So earlier today I saw an alert that someone viewed me. It was this guy! LOL!!! So I went and viewed him again. He changed his age to a younger age. But I didn't read the rest of it. So I went back this evening to look at the pictures again and guess what? He's gone. He must have deleted his profile when he saw I looked at his. He can't blocked me because we didn't have a conversation on there. (To block someone you have to exchanged a note first). Every day is a new adventure. What lies ahead tomorrow?

This one is short. Unfortunately I didn't keep all the texts to copy here. He wanted to get off site to chat as they all do. Here's a tip. When they give you phone number, go to another phone like a work number and dial it. What happens is it will go to a recording for you to announce your name. It doesn't go through to the person or two voicemail. One of the services for this if through Google. I can't remember the other. Anyway, they are fake. Add that to the list of tips I've published earlier. :) Funny thing about this one. We texted a for a bit must have forgotten who he was chatting with. LOL! You'll see his comment and mine below. He's history and has been added to the Liars Wall of Disdain. :)

So here is a conversation I had on POF: So I had asked where he lived in MO and he said he was deployed. So I of course thanked him for his service. When I went back to see his response, he blocked me. And I couldn't get a screen shot. What a shocker. NOT!!! LOL!!!!

Here are emails from a new guy. We'll discuss it later. :) #1 Good Morning Patsy, I thank you very much for your response, I want to formally tell a little about myself. I want to meet with you and get to know you. I am a self employed man. I am a geologist by profession. I am hired by corporations and companies for mining contracts. I am widowed I lost my wife through Polycystic Kidney Disease 6 years ago. My life is totally empty and i need that special woman in my life to make me whole again. And i saw that attributes in you and decided to let you know how i feel. But first we have to be friends… I believe that if your partner is your best friend then you have a lasting relationship filled with fun, inner peace and happiness. I grew up in Switzerland, I live in Springfield MO now, moved down here two years ago.. i speak a foreign language (Romansh), you can notice my accent even in my writings... I'm an easy going, Honest , down to earth person, I am a great lover of the arts and Music but like the outdoors... I also love traveling and experiencing different cultures and seeing the world from a different perspective. I think it's good to give something back to the community, in whatever small way. I really love life and everything it has to offer. I am very focused and goal oriented person that also makes sure to enjoy life at the same time. I work very hard to get all the things I want in life , but at the same time I love what I do. So I consider myself pretty lucky Now all I really need is to find that special woman that I can share and enjoy all the great things life has to offer. I pride myself on being direct and honest with people, and motivating people with direct feedback. Life's too short to not tell the truth. I believe that if your partner is your best friend then you have a lasting relationship filled with fun, inner peace and happiness. I am an independent man who loves working and planning and in search of a lovely woman who will forever remain my life partner as well as growing older together. All I want now is someone who can be comfortable at an important public function but has no problem getting sand between her toes at the beach! Sure enough of herself to open herself to loving and caring about that special man in her life. A woman who can communicate what she desires and has the ability to listen. Someone who is positive and believes that every day holds something amazing. The ability to share her heart, her mind. I want to share my life with someone, and it won't be as a playmate. I want to be good friends with you as friendship is the basic of every good relationship. I hope to hear from you soon my lady, will send you more pics of me in my next email. Would love to have yours as well. Take care of yourself for me. Regards, Allan. #2 Hi Patsy, Thanks for writing back, glad to read from you. I would like to know more about you, like what you do for a living, where you are from and where you stay now, How big is your family, where are your parents, how many brothers and sisters you have. I have been single for 6 years now. And it took me so many years to find myself and to realize what it is I'm looking for, I want a soul mate that will take her time to know me and Love me for who I am and not what I have, I want my Next relationship to be my last. I find most women are looking for sex only. No one is really looking for a Relationship. good woman is few, far and in between and because of how busy life is lately, Internet is the modern way to meet people more easy and faster. How long have you been using internet dating? Please feel free to ask me anything you want to know about me, it will help me get a feel of who you are and whats important to you... Goodnight. Allan. #3 Hello Beautiful, Nice to hear from you again Pasty, Sorry for delayed response, I had a busy weekend. How are you doing today? I will answer your question in this email but I wonder if you read my previous message or you just copy and paste... However, I am ready for a new relationship yes but the relationship has to be mutual, trusted between both partner, help each other when we need help, such as if you have a rough day and need help i am there to help you. To support you, that's what you call trust and friendship, my father told me many years ago, to treat a woman with respect and act like a gentleman. my mother is Scotch, Irish, English and my father is Italian and Chippewa. Dad died when I was a teenager, My Mom raised me up as a single Mom, she passed on May 12, 2001. I'm the only Child of my Parents. It really hurt me so much about my losses in the past in parents, my only daughter who passed 9 years ago in an auto Accident and my late wife. I am glad i overcome it all and ready to face the Future and see what it holds with the right person, which is part of the reason i relocated down here for a fresh start.. I hope that answers your question. I'm ready to love, I believe that if there is chemistry between two people love will only blossom. You seem to have many qualities that I am looking for in a woman. Someone who is independent, jovial, open minded honest and has a good heart. Friendship is the key to a long lasting relationship, it is the foundation and also passion is needed for a romantic relationship to flourish. I feel that if you can't be friends first what chance do you have at being lovers? With friendship you have to have trust and respect. You have to like the person you're friends with to get along together. Once that is accomplished falling in love with them is just an extension of friendship, only stronger and better. Like the foundation of a brick house, love must also have a foundation.. It helps to have things in common too and with proper communication a relationship is sustained. I don't judge people i share their fears and also support them mentally and emotionally if need be, I hate when people find fault in anything i do and start judging so i never get to judge people no matter there wrongs I believe they need to be talked to. I hate being cheated on or lied to and i believe honesty is a great deal in a relationship if two couples are not totally honest with themselves then it will never work out between them so i will never cheat or lie to my partner. I want to give you my attention. I want to pour my heart and soul to a lady that really cares and is ready to be loved by her man and love him in return. . I just want to share my world with a special woman. Spend the rest of my life with her. A few other things: Favorite color - Blue Music - I enjoy almost all music. Especially pop music, Blues, country music, holding hands while dancing.I enjoy staying physically fit, I have some workout equipment and also have a membership at a fitness center. Setting a good example is important.Keeping a good home I like. Making improvements and just keeping it nice. Other things I like: beaches, skiing, swimming, riding bikes, walking or jogging, camping, fishing, baseball, dancing, and cooking on the grill for my partner. I do try when it comes to writing poems too. I like animals. You know, getting to know you is something I could hope for and would be a great pleasure getting to meet you in person. Enjoy your day leaving you with this song. From my heart, Allan. #4 dear Patsy, Thanks for the e-mail, am always happy to hear from you. You seem like a very wonderful woman and would love to meet you soon, I live in MO. It does not take a day you know I work as much as i would but i get too lonely and come back home to find no one say "how was your day", I am ready to meet someone to share life with.. I enjoy walking out, fishing, golf, traveling, reading poems and enjoy a fun time with my other half. I love meeting new people and trying new things, I enjoy cuddling up on the couch to a fire and a romantic movie. I consider myself a very honest and open man and enjoy giving and receiving affection, have been Single for some years now. I am an easy going person and easy to get along with, I am a gentle man at all times and I respect the person, compassionate, a great listener, and not afraid to show my emotions. I believed not only in what a woman look like but her heart play the most important role to me in a relationship. Can describe myself again as a family man, who thinks it's more important to come home and spend quality time with the family instead of hanging out at the bar or out there doing some others stuffs. I enjoy traveling, you know its always nice seeing new places and meeting new people from the world. Bedroom aerobics are great and I consider that as an important part of a serious relationship ( hope you understand what i mean by that ), Being able to come home after work and hold a nice conversation is something that has been missing in my life for a long time and i hope i find someone i can do that with, in no time... I love to touch!!! Holding hands and showing affection is very important to me i believed in friendship so much because to me it is the key role to a long lasting relationship. Am a simple person and try to never ask anything of anyone, will just try to do it myself. I have had to take care of myself for a very long time now, do the best i can with what i have and just keep trying harder to do better. I try to never give up no matter how bad a problem may be. I'm a hard working man but will always have time for that special woman in my life. What am I looking for, well that's kind of hard for me to say. I am looking for someone that is honest, truthful, faithful,with a good heart and enjoys doing some of the things I do. Someone that is woman enough to stick out good times , bad times, hard times, she is always there no matter what may happen. That will let me be me and if that means letting use their shoulder to lean on once in a while. Someone that is not controlling, abusive, or a person that is very harsh and cannot trust her man . Someone who is romantic,passionate, caring and will surprise you sometimes for no reason but to say she was thinking and missing you. I want Someone that wants to share their life with mine and mine with theirs and in return this person will get more from me. Would be happy if i find that special woman in no time, I am willing to relocate anywhere to be with the right one for me. The woman i will trust with my heart and she would do the same. Guess It's Time to stop Searching and would be happy to see where this takes us. Am willing to Love you forever. I feel like the Luckiest one having to get your Attention but I believe God knows best... I hope to hear from you soon. With love and respect, Allan. Okay, so what did you think? Yes, they all write about the same thing. So when I wrote back and asked again where in MO he lived. Then I sent a second email asking for his phone number so we could chat. I had no intentions of calling him back but I thought if I got his number I could run it through White Pages Premium and find out where he really is. Guess what? You know it's coming. I never heard back. LOL!!!!